iDadeus Vita is a member of the Polish parliament and the ruling Law
& Order party. He chairs the finance and trade commission in the
Polish Parliament and a member of the Polish delegation to the
European Commission in Strasbourg.
I had the honor of having the following
interesting Interview with polish deputy Dadeus Vita.
♦ Vahram Emiyan : - What can you say about your
party and its activities?
● Dadeus Vita : - The party, to which I am a
member, is called Law & Order, and it was formed a few years ago.
After the downfall of the communist regime in 1989, Poland was
facing a great difficulty in exposing the truth about that era.
After the downfall of that regime a “round table” was set up, during
which an agreement was reached not to discuss that era. Those who
participated in those talks were convinced that the history, the
details and mistakes of that era must not be discussed. The problem
is that those men were members of that regime’s nomenclature and now
although they are no longer top ranking politicians but have
important positions in business, media and banking sectors, a fact
that creates many problems because the secret service had thousands
of members who had a good education, special information and good
connections. They used that experience and advantage to occupy posts
in big business. So now we have a business system which is formed of
persons who where members of the secret service or occupied a post
that allowed them to have access to special information, and as you
well know information is very important in business, and the secret
service had very good information and used to run our life.
Now the majority of the Polish people are
noticing that there is a problem. During the communist era a
policeman and a prisoner used to receive the same salary, and now
people are noticing that those people who at the time were
persecuting them are now earning 10-12 times more money than they,
which is not just. Those who during the communist era were poor, now
are even more poor. While those who at the time occupied a high
position, are now receiving a very good salary. We, some politicians
started talking about this problem, but it is very difficult to
change the way people think, because although we have many
newspapers, but those newspapers are in the hands of people who may
not be “red” communists, but are at least “pink” and after 1989
those newspapers did every thing they could to blur these facts. Our
party decided to change that situation. The general elections of
2005 gave us the opportunity to do just that, because our
parliamentary group’s membership increased from 40 to 150.
Beforehand we could only talk about it.
♦ V. Emiyan : - Before two years the Polish
parliament adopted a resolution, presented by your party,
recognizing the Armenian Genocide. Did you have any difficulty in
passing this resolution?
● D. Vita : - This resolution was adopted by
the previous parliament where we had only 40 members. We didn’t
encounter much difficulty, and some people had even not heard about
it. Now I hear that the Turkish authorities don’t blame our party,
but are asking about who was the president of parliament and are
pointing their finger at him. They don’t want to know who presented
it. This resolution was prepared by the parliament speaker Mark
Yurikh and Mikha Viasdovsky who is now the minister of education. At
the time that bill was a way of showing to the Polish public that we
want to reveal the truth and organize polish public life on
foundations that are more transparent. Now we have more opportunity
to do that, because we are the Polish parliament’s biggest party. At
the time of the adoption of the Armenian Genocide resolution we were
a small group. Now we occupy 150 sits in the 460 member Polish
parliament and we have formed a coalition government. We have some
problems in the coalition, but we have the opportunity to reveal the
facts to the public by presenting new television programs and by
supporting people like father Dadeus Isakovich Zaleski. Father
Zaleski is a priest of Armenian origin who has written a book
exposing the activities of priests who worked for the secret
service. He faced many difficulties in writing and publishing his
book. We are facing many difficulties, because we have only a short
time, just 2.5 years and we want to reveal the truth, so you can
imagine, we have many enemies.
♦ V. Emiyan : - What was Turkey’s reaction to
the adoption of this resolution?
● D. Vita : - At the time I wasn’t a member of
parliament and I can’t say that a Turkish official said anything to
me. But I have heard from my friends, who at the time where members
of parliament that officially Turkey did nothing, but on an
unofficial level Turkish officials have said that they dislike the
parliament speaker and they want to talk with him. Turkish officials
officially did nothing, but I hear that when the opportunity arises
they try to heart Poland.
♦ V. Emiyan : - Poland has the biggest
population in the EU. Will Turkey’s membership of the EU create
problems for Poland?
● D. Vita : - I don’t expect problems that are
specially for Poland. I would like to see a strong and unified
Europe and I would like to build that Europe on strong foundations
and that foundations should be the 2000 year old values of Europe,
which are the Christian values. I am a member of the Polish
delegation to the European Commission, so I am in contact with
politicians from different countries and I want to see a Europe
based on Christianity. I don’t think that Turkey’s EU membership is
a good idea, but I know that that would allow to build an Islamic
state that is not like Iran. For that reason I don’t know which is
better? To have a unified Europe that includes that country or a
unified Europe without it? Because it would be worse for all if
Turkey started working with Iran. May be it is better to have Turkey
join European Union, but as you know the European Union want’s
Turkey to talk about the truth and your history is part of that
truth, something which Turkey is not willing to do and that is a
problem.
♦ V. Emiyan : - Do you think that Turkey is
ready to be a member of the EU?
● D. Vita : - I already told that I don’t think
that it is ready. You should know that I am not happy with some
countries who have become members of the EU long before Poland. As I
stated, I want a Europe based on Christian values which many members
do not consider to be important and that is why we have many
problems. I am not sure that Turkey is ready, but I am also not sure
that the European Union itself is ready to open its doors to other
countries. I would prefer to see countries like Ukraine as members
of the EU, may be even Serbia, because in these countries the
Christian foundation is better and I think that an EU who does not
have good foundations, in the event of accepting Turkey’s membership
will cease to exist just like the Soviet Union. In reality I don’t
know which is better. May be it’s better to include some countries
in this Europe who has lost its foundation or put an end to this
cooperation.
♦ V. Emiyan : - After becoming a member of the
EU what changes have occurred for Poland? and what are the problems?
● D. Vita : - We have some problems, but what
we have gained is far greater. We have the opportunity to take more
money from the EU than what we pay to the EU budget. I think it’s
good. Poland lacks building materials. Now we have the opportunity
to build roots, houses and to allocate funds for environmental
problems, so our environment is better and we have the opportunity
to have purer water. So it’s good. But personally I don’t want to
see the idea of EU as a business idea. I want to see it as a group
of countries who are interested in the same values.